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	<title>Comments on: Ontario&#8217;s deadly Swine Flu surge, 24 dead in 72 hours</title>
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		<title>By: News Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.vancouverite.com/2009/11/13/ontarios-deadly-swine-flu-surge-24-dead-in-72-hours/comment-page-1/#comment-3846</link>
		<dc:creator>News Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The number was valid for the weekly date range it was issued for. Nine people died during the week mentioned. Of course the number will not change until the next update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The number was valid for the weekly date range it was issued for. Nine people died during the week mentioned. Of course the number will not change until the next update.</p>
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		<title>By: Basilios</title>
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		<dc:creator>Basilios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is now January 2nd 2010, and The Public Health Agency of Canada&#039;s OFFICIAL number of CONFIRMED deaths due directly to swine flu (H1N1) virus is a shocking 9.  TOTAL.

9...

Good work on the misleading fear mongering article!

Anyone who wants the official number, feel free to google it.   A lot of the deaths are people with heart conditions, and other chronic illnesses.   

The fact is, swine flu has a LOWER mortality rate than the regular flue virus.  The regular flu is more deadly !

Get informed before you pump yourself with 3 vaccines this season.  You might be saving yourself a future of unwanted side-effects, and health problems, such as auto-immune disorders, and mercury build up in your system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is now January 2nd 2010, and The Public Health Agency of Canada&#8217;s OFFICIAL number of CONFIRMED deaths due directly to swine flu (H1N1) virus is a shocking 9.  TOTAL.</p>
<p>9&#8230;</p>
<p>Good work on the misleading fear mongering article!</p>
<p>Anyone who wants the official number, feel free to google it.   A lot of the deaths are people with heart conditions, and other chronic illnesses.   </p>
<p>The fact is, swine flu has a LOWER mortality rate than the regular flue virus.  The regular flu is more deadly !</p>
<p>Get informed before you pump yourself with 3 vaccines this season.  You might be saving yourself a future of unwanted side-effects, and health problems, such as auto-immune disorders, and mercury build up in your system.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Coe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Coe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loving the public response and mistrust of so-called experts. To be suspicious is to be alive. If there is one industry that uses fear mongering and misleading advertising, it is the pharmaceutical/vaccine producers. Government agencies that support and protect these producers, likewise promote those same products and get their livelihood from them. Like T. V. advertisements that trumpet the possible (not guaranteed) benefits of a product and whisper the lengthy list of serious side effects, this industry  does not take responsibility for the damage it does. Google any BigPharma company along with &quot;lawsuits&quot; and you will see the perpetual litigation brought forth against them, plus the convictions and fines they pay. Don&#039;t however, expect to see any charges or convictions for criminal negligence causing mass death, because our health officials have sign contracts giving away any legal course of action in this regard. Campaign contributions Which use to be called bribes and payolla is also an effective means to avoid prosecution for wrongful deaths. Remember, the only way to get these criminals is to not purchase their product. And keep up the fight all you amazing sceptics!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loving the public response and mistrust of so-called experts. To be suspicious is to be alive. If there is one industry that uses fear mongering and misleading advertising, it is the pharmaceutical/vaccine producers. Government agencies that support and protect these producers, likewise promote those same products and get their livelihood from them. Like T. V. advertisements that trumpet the possible (not guaranteed) benefits of a product and whisper the lengthy list of serious side effects, this industry  does not take responsibility for the damage it does. Google any BigPharma company along with &#8220;lawsuits&#8221; and you will see the perpetual litigation brought forth against them, plus the convictions and fines they pay. Don&#8217;t however, expect to see any charges or convictions for criminal negligence causing mass death, because our health officials have sign contracts giving away any legal course of action in this regard. Campaign contributions Which use to be called bribes and payolla is also an effective means to avoid prosecution for wrongful deaths. Remember, the only way to get these criminals is to not purchase their product. And keep up the fight all you amazing sceptics!!</p>
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		<title>By: H1N1 / Swine Flu Update &#171; Hope2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>H1N1 / Swine Flu Update &#171; Hope2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 02:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are people with symptom&#039;s of flu/ H1N1 walking into hospital&#039;s &amp; doctor&#039;s surgery&#039;s in Canada nilly-willy. In Ireland, if you have symptom&#039;s you ring the doctor from your home...&amp; he then calls with Tamiflu or Relenza and gives instruction&#039;s of dosage etc. Most people who have died here have underlying condition&#039;s or are very young children with no immune backup in their systems. I had the vaccine myself two weeks ago &amp; I have a respiratory illness &amp; so far no problem. I also get the ordinary flu jab every year &amp; I had the once in a lifetime jab against pneumonia. So, if anyone is an advert for flu vaccine&#039;s it&#039;s me. Lot&#039;s of people are worrying, &amp; I don&#039;t know if it is worth the worry, you&#039;re gonna&#039; go when your time is up, whether you like it or not. So I hope you there in Canada see a reduction soon in the number of cases, but remember hygiene like washing hands &amp; sneezing into hankie&#039;s/napkins&amp; discarding same immediately will prevent it&#039;s spread. So that&#039;s all I can say...&amp; remember the same number of people world wide die each year from the ordinary flu, so try not to let it frighten you out of life. Cheer&#039;s Jaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are people with symptom&#8217;s of flu/ H1N1 walking into hospital&#8217;s &amp; doctor&#8217;s surgery&#8217;s in Canada nilly-willy. In Ireland, if you have symptom&#8217;s you ring the doctor from your home&#8230;&amp; he then calls with Tamiflu or Relenza and gives instruction&#8217;s of dosage etc. Most people who have died here have underlying condition&#8217;s or are very young children with no immune backup in their systems. I had the vaccine myself two weeks ago &amp; I have a respiratory illness &amp; so far no problem. I also get the ordinary flu jab every year &amp; I had the once in a lifetime jab against pneumonia. So, if anyone is an advert for flu vaccine&#8217;s it&#8217;s me. Lot&#8217;s of people are worrying, &amp; I don&#8217;t know if it is worth the worry, you&#8217;re gonna&#8217; go when your time is up, whether you like it or not. So I hope you there in Canada see a reduction soon in the number of cases, but remember hygiene like washing hands &amp; sneezing into hankie&#8217;s/napkins&amp; discarding same immediately will prevent it&#8217;s spread. So that&#8217;s all I can say&#8230;&amp; remember the same number of people world wide die each year from the ordinary flu, so try not to let it frighten you out of life. Cheer&#8217;s Jaker.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look up D225g and also look into Norway&#039;s outbreak. The 1918 pandemic was H1N1 that mutated with the bird flu virus to become D225G. It is no surprise that Baxter was caught in February of this year sending live H5N1 (bird Flu) to labs in 18 countries. It is also no surprise that American media is killing this story and not reporting on it. This mutation is man made and part of a bigger plan to enslave and control all people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look up D225g and also look into Norway&#8217;s outbreak. The 1918 pandemic was H1N1 that mutated with the bird flu virus to become D225G. It is no surprise that Baxter was caught in February of this year sending live H5N1 (bird Flu) to labs in 18 countries. It is also no surprise that American media is killing this story and not reporting on it. This mutation is man made and part of a bigger plan to enslave and control all people.</p>
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		<title>By: Censured Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Censured Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every year flu viruses sickens millions of people and kills tens of thousands (directly or indirectly)  - that&#039;s par for the course, and new strains are common as the various influenza strains have a tendency to mutate, which is also why flu vaccine has such a low efficacy rate.  

The issue here regarding the term pandemic is mulitfold: first, the public perception of grave danger that gets invoked by the term tends to inspire fear in the public, second, when the WHO declares a pandemic it invokes certain treaty obligations of participating nations, which includes most of the world, and can lead to very serious consequences to those nations and individuals who do not comply, such as quarantine, forced innoculations, heavy fines, loss of jobs, and imprisonment, and third, the WHO changed their definition of pandemic just prior to declaring level 6... by dropping the morbidity and mortality portion.  This is discussed in an interview that the German magazine, Spiegel, did with the epidemiologist and vocal critic Tom Jefferson and published on July 21, 2009.

source: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,637119,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every year flu viruses sickens millions of people and kills tens of thousands (directly or indirectly)  &#8211; that&#8217;s par for the course, and new strains are common as the various influenza strains have a tendency to mutate, which is also why flu vaccine has such a low efficacy rate.  </p>
<p>The issue here regarding the term pandemic is mulitfold: first, the public perception of grave danger that gets invoked by the term tends to inspire fear in the public, second, when the WHO declares a pandemic it invokes certain treaty obligations of participating nations, which includes most of the world, and can lead to very serious consequences to those nations and individuals who do not comply, such as quarantine, forced innoculations, heavy fines, loss of jobs, and imprisonment, and third, the WHO changed their definition of pandemic just prior to declaring level 6&#8230; by dropping the morbidity and mortality portion.  This is discussed in an interview that the German magazine, Spiegel, did with the epidemiologist and vocal critic Tom Jefferson and published on July 21, 2009.</p>
<p>source: <a href="http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,637119,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,637119,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: News Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.vancouverite.com/2009/11/13/ontarios-deadly-swine-flu-surge-24-dead-in-72-hours/comment-page-1/#comment-3003</link>
		<dc:creator>News Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By definition, Pandemic refers to geographic spread rather than how sick people will get. But you have to agree that people have been sickened by this by the millions and this is being covered because it is new - something that we have not seen before. It is a novel virus. We don&#039;t deal with conspiracy theories, just facts. And these figures you see are facts. Keep it simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By definition, Pandemic refers to geographic spread rather than how sick people will get. But you have to agree that people have been sickened by this by the millions and this is being covered because it is new &#8211; something that we have not seen before. It is a novel virus. We don&#8217;t deal with conspiracy theories, just facts. And these figures you see are facts. Keep it simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Censored Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Censored Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Practically everything that is learned these days in terms of the truth comes not from the lame stream media, but from alternative sites and a handful of journalists and doctors who are active in voicing and writing what they know, through websites, podcasts, etc.  But this information is not easy to find for many; it must be sought through digging for it.  Even now many older people still aren&#039;t familiar with Youtube, or the various alternative news sources.  

Every time I turn on CBC or CKNW or CFUN I hear the same old spin and slanted pseudo news propaganda.  It frustrates me because I know very well that there is another side, which is very credible and tells a very different story.  For example, no one reports about what Dr. Gary Null testified at the NYS hearings which helped force the NY govt to back off from mandatory vaccination of health workers there.  No one talks about the contaminated flu vaccines put out by Baxter in Feb.  No one talks about our govt regulators and health policy makers and their relationship with the pharmaceutical industrial complex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Practically everything that is learned these days in terms of the truth comes not from the lame stream media, but from alternative sites and a handful of journalists and doctors who are active in voicing and writing what they know, through websites, podcasts, etc.  But this information is not easy to find for many; it must be sought through digging for it.  Even now many older people still aren&#8217;t familiar with Youtube, or the various alternative news sources.  </p>
<p>Every time I turn on CBC or CKNW or CFUN I hear the same old spin and slanted pseudo news propaganda.  It frustrates me because I know very well that there is another side, which is very credible and tells a very different story.  For example, no one reports about what Dr. Gary Null testified at the NYS hearings which helped force the NY govt to back off from mandatory vaccination of health workers there.  No one talks about the contaminated flu vaccines put out by Baxter in Feb.  No one talks about our govt regulators and health policy makers and their relationship with the pharmaceutical industrial complex.</p>
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		<title>By: Censored Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Censored Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well yes.  When people hear the pronouncement from that grand overseer of the world&#039;s health, the WHO, that there is a pandemic underway, naturally they are frightened.  But is it really a pandemic, according to the classical definition, meaning thousands of dead, requiring emergency measures, forced innoculations, quarantines, etc.?  No, far from it.  So what I expect from real journalists is to uncover the truth, give us real perspective with facts and deep honest analysis of the reality, no matter how damning it might be in implicating the health authorities, the govts, and the pharmaceutical corporations involved.   In fact, the more damning the more crucial it is to get to the bottom of the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well yes.  When people hear the pronouncement from that grand overseer of the world&#8217;s health, the WHO, that there is a pandemic underway, naturally they are frightened.  But is it really a pandemic, according to the classical definition, meaning thousands of dead, requiring emergency measures, forced innoculations, quarantines, etc.?  No, far from it.  So what I expect from real journalists is to uncover the truth, give us real perspective with facts and deep honest analysis of the reality, no matter how damning it might be in implicating the health authorities, the govts, and the pharmaceutical corporations involved.   In fact, the more damning the more crucial it is to get to the bottom of the truth.</p>
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